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Thursday, 29 May 2014

To pee, or not to pee? - Dog park woos!

Hiya everyone!
Welcome to our Thoughtless Thursday blog hop!

This FAB hop is hosted by the one and only Ruckus the Eskie!
Co hosted by yours truly, Love is being owned by a husky! 
A day to give your brains a break, and post whatever the heck comes to your mind!
As my pal Ruckus says "Don't think, just link!"

Today, I plan on sharing a dog park story with you, and going over a few dog park house rules, that I feel should be an unwritten code for pet owners.

This weekend, we are going to a dog event to raise money for a shelter and have fun while were at at! This event has a doggie water park, obstacle courses, and both on leash and off leash activities.


That being said, we have had Koda for a few months now, and unfortunately have not been able to get him out to the off leash dog park. I know, I know, how bad is that right?
Things have been pretty busy around here lately, but rest assured, he gets his daily walks and romps in the yard, and tons of playtime with his sisfurs, and of course, me.

I originally wanted to bring all three of my huskies to the event, however, not knowing how Koda would act while in an off leash setting with TONS of dogs around, I thought I should probably test the waters before I attempt this.

We brought him to our dog park two days ago.
Just him, and left the other huskies at home. (Not to worry, I made up for it!)

I was happy to see that there was absolutely nobody in the section for big dogs.
This way, I was also able to bring my daughters in the park.
I am not a fan of bringing young children into dog parks when there are just so many animals to worry about.

So in we went.

There are two sections to our park. One for small dogs, one for big dogs.
I LOVE this setup because sometimes the smaller ones get ran over by the bigger ones and ultimately may get hurt.

There were quite a few smaller dogs in their own section, and as soon as Koda got out of our truck, they all went berserk!



Koda, never being in this setting before, was very nervous. It was not the other dogs fault. I take full responsibility for not properly socializing him until now.
He was a tad reluctant to head into the park, but I think he was relieved when he realized there were no dogs in our side.

Then he had a blast!



He ran around like a mad man . . . or husky, I suppose.

Every so often he would head over to the fence line where the other dogs were to say hello. He was getting more and more comfortable.
He also found the toy box pretty darn quick!


Although, when we threw a ball for him, he just looked at us with his smug husky grin as if to say, "you want it? You fetch it!" haha!

And then he came across the most beautiful thing he ever did see.
The pawfectly placed pee pole!


He sniffed and sniffed, ever so carefully pondering the greatest question a husky has ever had to face.
"To pee, or not to pee?"
Of course, he chose, to pee!
He just had to check out the Pee mail that was left from the other dogs, before he replied.

We have G mail, dogs have pee mail!


All was going great, and then finally another big dog showed up, and was headed for our section. So, I had my hubby take the girls out, while I stayed in with Koda.
They sniffed each other, and did their circles while introducing themselves.
Then all the sudden, the unthinkable happened!
The other dog began to hump Koda!
Of course, Koda was not pleased, I called him over to me, and was expecting the owner of this dog to speak up, but he did not.

The dog came over, and began to hump him again . . . repeat the process of getting Koda away, as he was now becoming a bit growly with this dog.
This happened a few more times, and now I am starting to get upset.
The owner of the dog only sat there and laughed as his dog terrorized Koda.
When they first entered the park, I made it a point to go talk to the man, and explain this was Koda's first time here, and he is nervous, so I will be keeping a close eye on him.
After I started to get upset, I kindly told the man, that his dog is really upsetting Koda, and could he please call him off. Which worked . . . for 5 seconds.

Koda was getting very upset and overwhelmed, so I put his leash on, and tried to walk to the other end.
The other dog kept jumping on Koda, and proceeded to hump him. THEN, another dog came in. A very hyper active chocolate Lab.

Koda wanted to play with her. Every time he went near her, she growled, and started biting at him, with her haunches all in an uproar. I am very good at reading a dogs body language, so I know that this lab was not happy. I called Koda to me, and she proceeded to run up to him, bite his leg, and start barking and growling in his face.

 Needless to say, I then took him home.

Our experience at the dog park was not a very nice one. Once the other dogs entered, we only stayed a total of 10 minutes when all of this happened. I did not want Koda to be afraid to come back.

The moral of the story :
I should have began socializing him the moment I brought him home.
I am pretty upset with the other owners at the park.
The park is for dogs to come and have fun, not to run wild and have no rules to follow.
People need to control their dogs if they are to have them in a public park.

One major rule I think should be in the unwritten pet owner rule book :


I mean, I realize they are dogs, and this is what dogs do sometimes, but when it is nonstop, and it is clearly making the other dog uncomfortable, please, just ask your dog to stop!

Koda will not be coming with us to the event this weekend.
I am upset, as I really wanted to bring him along,but he is just not ready, and I don't want to overwhelm him.
I think I have made the best decision for Koda.

Have you had any bad experiences at the dog park?
Leave your thoughts in the comments below.

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58 comments:

  1. Oh Jenna, there isn't enough space on your blog to tell you all my Bad Dog Park Dog stories! The constant humping from the other dog is a show of dominance and is a form of bullying. That owner was a fool for allowing the behavior - but he'll get his, one day that dog will start humping HIM uncontrollably - LOL! You did the right thing on both counts; first taking Koda to the park when it was empty for his first time and second knowing to remove him when things got stressful. I have been there too. Don't let that foolish owner get to you.
    Catherine Armato
    www.dogsluvusandweluvthem.blogspot.com

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    1. Thanks Cathy, I really appreciate your comment! I was in shock the this dogs owner just wasn't saying anything, and laughing his head off on top of it!!!!! I would never allow my dogs to be such bullies to others! I just felt bad for poor Koda. His fist experience started out great, but didn't end so hot!

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  2. SOme people are just irisponsible they think any behaviour is ok in off leash areas,which is wrong a dog owner still should control their dogs as other dogs could get hurt or people could get hurt.Just keep on the way you are going with gradual socailisation for Koda,and enjoy the off leash area as and when you can,not all dog owners are like that,I hope Koda gets to meet some nice doggies soon,xxRachel
    Thank you for the power of paw for Speedy,I am very relieved that he is back to normal,xx

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    1. Thanks so much Rachel. I was SO relieved to hear that Speedy is doing better! I was worried!
      We have had Mika and Lexus to the park before, numerous times, and the dogs and their owners were always friendly and everyone got along great! These owners were just completely irresponsible as you said.

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  3. Wow! That is a horror story, and probably the reason why I don't go to dog parks. Poor Koda. Shiner kept getting humped by a male dog at our lakehouse one year and she was always quick to tell him to quit it. The owner asked my brother if she was fixed, and he told her yes. He said she might need to be double checked because I guess apparently male dogs don't hump spayed females? (nonsense!) I told him not to worry, I personally disposed of her uterus myself and was present during her surgery. Silly man.

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    1. hahaha! Isn't it great when people think they know it all! I have not heard that one before (male dogs won't hum a fixed female) I know for a fact that is just a bunch of bull-hooey! BOL!!!!

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  4. I think there should be a general "No Humping" rule throughout the land! You absolutely did the right thing by leaving with Koda. We don't have a single dog park anywhere around us so we haven't had to deal with this.

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    1. Thanks Melissa. I agree. As I said, I understand sogs do this sometimes, but once or twice.....the owner calls him off, then fine, no harm no foul, but this??? This was just a horrible experience for both Koda and myself. I would be an enforcer of the no humping rule, that's for sure!

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  5. Haha! Even though it is serious and really true, that 'no humping' sign is just hilarious to see! But on a more serious note, its true! Not only is it embarrassing to have your dog hump someone or something else, its also terribly awkward if you have another dog come and hump your own dog (or you…)! Earl used to hump everything when he was a puppy, until we had him 'done', which helped resolve it. He won't do it out of choice anymore, so that means he never does it anymore, thankfully!! Humping can be a dominating behaviour as well - and you can usually tell which is which. If its a male to a male its usually dominating!!!! That man in your situation sure sounded like a very ignorant man indeed. Good post though!

    Lots of Woofs from Earl and I at Earl's World!

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    1. BOL!!!! I'm glad you liked my no humping sign! I created it in hopes it would lighten up the situation and make people smile when they saw it. SO job well done I suppose!!!
      It was definitely dominance, and I was shocked at the fact that the owner just sat there and watched.

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  6. Sorry it did not go well. We have to get on in our park so socialisation is super important but as always there are incidents. Controlling your dog is so important but there are some who don't. We walk pretty much the same time of day as we know all the people in the park and the troublesome ones are never up in the mornings so we don't see them and we also avoid the horrid lycra louts on their bikes. Have a tremendous Thursday.
    Best wishes Molly

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    1. Thanks Mollie, this dog bark is local to us, and it was just built, so we haven't been there enough to really know who goes there and when unfortunately, we used to drive about an hour to a different dog bark every weekend, and always had a blast there with Mika and Lexus. I do need to get to this one more often so I can figure out what times are best to go.

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  7. Dog parks are one of those really iffy things. There are many in urban areas, Iused to go a lot about 10 years ago when Norbert and Tubby were young. We had some sketchy things happen including once Tubby was attacked but not hurt as I intervened immediately. That spoiled my taste for awhile. We tried again when Bob was young and despite intensive socialization Bob HATED the dog park and was aggressive. I was mortified when he went after a german shepherd. Thankfully no one was hurt. I think Bob gets easily over-stimulated. We immediately stopped bringing him and saw a trainer, he is fine at home but no dog park for Bob. Sine then Im convinced many dogs don't like the park, my trainer told me such, but push it on their dogs. We do occasionally with Weasley and Im pleased tht now they segregate sizes at our park, previously they didn't which is unsafe. Weasley loves it so we will continue to go sometimes

    retro rover

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    1. I agree, the different sections was a very good idea! Small dogs can get hurt easily when you have a bunch of big dogs running around full tilt. I don't doubt that some dogs aren't to fond of the park. My other two huskies adore going there and running with the other dogs, but not all dogs like to be around such commotion. Thanks for your comment.

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  8. Cupcake has never been to the dog park. I am afraid of those very irresponsible dog owners that you ran into. Not just the humping, but also, I'd be afraid they'd have sick dogs there, and Cupcake could pick something up - fleas, parasites, worms. Having rule is one thing - people following the rules is something else. I think you made the right decision.

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    1. Thanks for your comment. There are rules for the dog parks, but your right, who is to say that everyone follows them?! I always make it a point to make sure the other dogs that are there have their vet tags, but even that is not a sure thing, as there could be fleas etc...your absolutely right.

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  9. So meowsy glad yous had a good time at da doggy pawk. Hav a Pawsum Fursday!!!

    Luv and Hugs ad Kitty kisses ♥♥♥

    Dezi

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    1. ..thank you. We had a good time at first, but it all ended not so good, as I stated in my post. Thanks for coming by!

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  10. That sounds like a truly horrible experience. I don't think I would have kept as calm as you seem to have been. I would have shouted at the guy so much but then again I do have a bit of a temper.... *sheepish grin* Good luck with Koda for the future though and I hope he will want to return to the park- hopefully without such misbehaving dogs!

    Dina Mom

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    1. I hope so too. But one thing I know for sure, is that if that man is there again, or even the other lab that came, I won't be going in. I know better now! I wanted to freak out at him, but I did my best to keep it cool, and focus on getting Koda out of there. Thanks for coming by!

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  11. We don't have a dog park nearby (though they may be building one soon in the next town over), so we have never been to one. I'm not sure we ever will....I have heard too many stories like yours and it's not the other dogs I don't trust, it's the people! So many people just don't seem to have a clue about proper dog behavior. We even stop humping when it happens at home (luckily Luke hasn't been doing it much since we had him neutered). It's just too bad that it didn't go better for you and Koda this time.
    Jan, Wag 'n Woof Pets

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    1. Dog parks can be very fun at times. I have always enjoyed bringing Mika and Lexus to the parks, but this time was definitely an exception. When you run into people who let their dogs run free and do as they please, it is no fun for anybody. People like this ruin parks for others just coming to have some fun. I am glad the neutering has helped with Luke! That's great!

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  12. I've talked with local dog groups that want more dog parks and many can't understand this and many other behaviors of irresponsible dog owners are what cost the rest of us the opportunity for off leash dog parks. The liablity to city and town governments is huge when people don't do the right thing. The problems range from people not cleaning up after their pets creating higher maintence costs to not paying attention to rules about supervising their children.

    I've seen scary incidents where people treat a dog park like a children's playground. Kids run screaming around with no supervision. Gee what do you think could possibly happen with kids with no supervision interacting with dogs with no supervision. No problems there.

    You can't force other people to be responsible when it comes to their dogs or their kids. Sadly however, their lack of responsiblity can and does impact many of our lives. It is one of the main reasons we don't have a dog park in our City. I understand the arguments from the responsible dog owners, I am one. However, I can also respect the City's perspective. A minority of people really do destroy the experience for the majority of responsible dog owners.

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    1. Your absolutely right! I will bring my 11 year old daughter into the park with me, as she just stands beside me and follows my lead, however I would never allow my three year old daughter to run around a dog park. I don't know a lot of these dogs, and I know some dogs prefer not to be around young children, and I would NEVER risk an accident happening to one of my kids or my dogs if I know I can prevent it. People just don't think. The dog park is for dogs, and there are plenty of other parks around for our kids. I understand the argument on both sides as well. It does make it hard for us, when there are just so many people who are irresponsible, they definitely ruin it for others.

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  13. Hmm dog parks are no place for a piggy so I haven't been but it sounds like, well, an interesting place to visit :-) No humping is right though!

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    1. BOL!!!! Yes your poor little Coccolino would get trampled.......or eaten! It can be fun sometimes, but when you run into irresponsible people, it ruins it for everyone.

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  14. We don't have a dog park here and Jan wouldn't take us to one if we did. Not after reading so many negative experiences, including the accidental death of one small dog by a big dog and one death by shooting, because of bad owners. It's a shame so many humans make the experience bad for others.

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    1. It is a shame. I love taking my dogs to the dog parks, they have a lot of fun there!
      But people do ruin it for others sometimes, and this was my first full on bad experience with it.
      I think I did the best I could in the situation that was presented towards me.
      Thanks for coming by, and thanks for your comment,

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  15. What? There's such a thing as a.... pee pole? Who knew? You dogs get all the good stuff. MOUSES! Oh Peepers...

    Purrs,
    Nissy

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    1. haha!!!! You are the first one to mention the pee pole!!! That was Koda's fav part of the whole park!!! He could have stayed there checking his pee mail for hours if I let him!!!!

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  16. oh my. it's so unfortunate when other's cannot manage their dogs, especially to those of us who try really hard to make sure everyone is behaving and getting along. :(

    Scariest thing I ever saw at a dog park was when a large breed mutt grabbed a hold of and tried to kill (literally) a small white fluffy dog. Luckily Olivia and I were in a different section of the dog park with a fence separating us, but it was horrible. The big dog had the small dog by the shoulder and was thrashing it. The owners were screaming and the owner of the big dog had no idea how to get her dog to spit out the little one (I wouldn't either!). Some how the dogs were separated and the little guy was alive but bloody. I don't know how it ended up after that because Olivia and I left the moment I knew the little dog was ok (to some degree).

    Dog parks can be a very fun or very scary place and unfortunately it all depends on who is there that day.

    www.oliviashuman.blogspot.com

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    1. That would have been so scary! I have never experienced anything like that (thankfully) but I can imagine how everyone felt, even just watching that go down!
      I prefer not to go into the parks when there are to many dogs there, that is just setting everyone up for failure. And unfortunately I am not to familiar with the people that go to this park, as it was just built. Hopefully I can start to get to know when to go and who will be there. Thanks for your comment :)

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  17. I'm sorry you had to deal with this. It seems to me that neither of those other dogs, or their owners, is appropriate for a dog park setting.

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    1. I know. Your definitely right about that!
      I don't people can be this way and just ruin things for everybody else.

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  18. I actually wrote a post awhile back on why I won't be taking my dogs to the dog park anymore. My dogs are very mellow and very tolerant. It takes a LOT to get them worked up. One time a random stranger had to grab a hose to get a dog to stop attacking Mauja. She was just stuck in the corner shaking. The dog owner didn't do a single thing. Just kind of laughed and let his dog keep playing. Needless to say, we left the park immediately. When Atka was old enough we tried taking him a few times and he got beat up on. Owners didn't even care. Now we stick to play dates with dogs and owners that we know, on leash hikes, and making friends on the town ;)

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    1. Oh my dog! That is just horrible!!!! I am glad she is ok! Why do people think that this is ok? They just ruin things for everybody else in the world. We don't know many people where we are living now, as we have moved just last year. But hopefully I can get to know more of the "dog" people here and do the doggie play date thing. Sounds much safer then the dog park!

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  19. Oh wow, this is one of our pet peeves and one of the reasons we don't go to dog parks anymore. Some people are just oblivious or just don't care, not sure which, but they spoil it for everyone with their unruly dogs. Sorry Koda's first experience had to end like that.

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    1. Thanks Slim. I think it's probably a bit of both! First they are oblivious, and then they just don't care! And your right, they spoil it for everyone. Thanks for your comment!

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  20. Poor Koda, I do not like being humped at all!!Two labs kept trying to gang rape me when I was on-lead which was awful, but mummy lets me off when we see them now so I have a chance to get away and they have stopped even trying, clearly they were just opportunists. Their owner did nothing to stop them and keep saying 'it's ok, they've been done' like that makes a difference!

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    1. Gang raped! BOL That must have been pretty horrid for you! It must have something to do with us being spitz breeds, I mean really, who can resist, we are super beautiful!!!! hahahaa!!!! And yea, um.....I don't care if your dog is fixed or not, I don't really think Koda would have cared either way! Just get them off of him!!!!! Sheesh!

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  21. What a terrible experience for you and Koda! We have had issues at the park here but now I go the same time and meet the same people. That has made the experience much better. We meet two other owners, one with two dogs and one with three that are all responsible and well behaved. If anyone comes that is unruly we outnumber them and just explain the rules. So far, it has taken care of the issue but I'm not sure I'd ever go alone again.

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    1. Yea, hopefully I can soon figure out what time is the best time to go. This park was just built, so I don't know the people or their dogs as of yet. We used to drive about an hour to go to a dog park, but this one is right down the road now, so I need to get there more, and figure it out! Thanks for your comment!

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  22. We being kitties had NO idea there were issues like this happening. OH my cod how awful for you. When you hear and experience stuff like that with other pet owners it makes you feel really bad. I wonder if having a can of spray of some sort in case another dog attacked (or humped) would be appropriate because it's apparent there are too many people who do not control their animals.

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    1. Far to many people, your right about that! Actually, I was reading in someone's comment that one person had to use a hose to separate the dogs from an attack. It would be great if they had hoses at every dog park! What a perfect way to shock the attacking dogs into reality!

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  23. We don't have any doggy parks over here, and I think I wouldn't take Laika to one if we had one, because she likes to fight with other dogs. She is not wellbehaved among other dogs, unfortunataly. Sniff from Laika and Vaks.

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    1. Yea, I think it's a good idea to keep Laika away from the dog parks then, that's very good thinking of you. Parks are not for all dogs, and some people bring their dogs anyways, and that is when it gets messy!

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  24. We're sorry you and Koda didn't have a good experience at the dog park. We wanna know why there's no cat parks!!

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    1. Hey, your right! There should be!!!
      Thanks, it wasn't very pleasant, but it happens sometimes, unfortunately.

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  25. Exactly why we don't get to go to dog parks too. Mom says some peeps are just plain ignorant. We have fun together in our own dog park in the yard:) And sometimes we get to have pals come for a visit. Better to be safe than have one of us get hurt. But it is too bad.

    Woos - Phantom, Ciara, and Lightning

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    1. I completely understand. My other two huskies have always had a blast at the dog parks though, and we have not yet come across people like this....until now. It was very unfortunate!

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  26. So sorry his first experience was so crappy. Doesn't sound like Koda has a socializing problem but the other dogs do and people are just ignorant. Hope your event goes good and that Koda can go next time.

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    1. Thanks for your comment JoAnn. Koda did seem fine, he just wanted to play, until he got humped one to many times, he started to get a bit growly, but who can blame him!?
      I think this event will be a blast! I'm sure you will hear all about it on one of my posts! BOL!

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  27. We are not big on dog parks, mostly because of things like this. Thanks for sharing your experience!
    Smileys!
    Dory, Jakey, Arty & Bilbo

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    1. Can't say that I blame you, that's for sure!

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  28. I'm afraid to take my dogs to the dog park because I just don't trust them around other dogs. Scout would be fine because all he does is leave pee mail, Teddy would be scared to death and Ash would be okay until another dog tried to hump her and then we would have to leave! I think you did the right thing by leaving because you never know what will happen and dog fights are a terrible thing. Two of our dogs that got along great got in a dog fight over nothing and we ended up losing our Phe, so I am overly cautious these days when it comes to dogs being together!

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    1. I don't blame you one bit! Plus it doesn't help when you have owners who are not controlling their dogs. ANything can happen.
      Dog fights are a horrid thing, and i'm so sorry about Phe :(

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  29. I've pretty much stopped going, despite being able to take two of my four.

    My eldest dog Putt-Putt (a mal/aussie mix) started going on the offensive when we went, due to the numerous times he was attacked. The worst of which was with an american bulldog, he now gets very vocal, and nasty sounding when he sees ANY bully breed.

    We were working with him and he was doing great (making sure to avoid bully breeds for the other dogs safety, since that was never going to be fixed) until the last time we were at the park: (last year) he was being good and giving numerous warnings for this giant mastiff to let him out of the corner and looking for help (Kevin was watering our other three and I was absorbed in a conversation with some else; shame on me for not paying attention) the owner of the Mastiff saw that Putt-Putt wasn't happy and told her dog to leave him alone but then walked away without doing anything, so Putt-Putt who was backed into a corner and wasn't getting any kind of intervention, gave every possible warning possible to a larger dog that was looming over him to leave him alone, jumped the mastiff... and WE get blamed! The Mastiff owner saw Kevin was busy, didn't know I was even there, and didn't step in to help either Kevin or Putt-Putt out are you kidding me?

    We don't care if that was where Kevin and I met, and where we hang out with what is left of our dog owner friends, we won't let our dogs be demonized for protecting themselves!

    So no, we don't go anymore. Instead we go out to the lake, on walks by the river, canoeing, swimming in the river, or out to an open not to busy area to let them play. This is other than playing in our own backyard.

    The other one I can't take is Hank, our Sheltie... because he barks and it annoys people. Seriously? It's a breed trait! Thats how they herd!

    Ignorant dog owners piss me off...

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    1. I hear ya!!! And it's just not fair! I am so sorry for that happening to you!
      My huskies really love the dog parks, so it really sucks that people ruin things for everyone!!!

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